KIDA IV Interview Series:
Champion and Finalists
BELATED KIDA IV Interview Series. Apologies in the delay.
GRAND CHAMPION
CUDS 1 (Tae Yeong John Kim and Nam Chul Kim)
Please
introduce yourselves
Hi my name is Taeyeong Kim and I am a debater from CUDS. NC
and I love games to the extent that we waste our prep time playing games, we
love talking to many people and we just love coming to these tournaments as we
can do both at the same time :)
Before the round me and NC were really excited as we just
won the Semi-Prep round as OG which was the round we were really worried about.
Plus as NC has never lost a BP final as long as he got to the final, we were
all pumped up with adrenaline and excitement. Another thing we were quite
excited was that everyone had this expectation that the final motion was going
to be really nice and fun so we were all up to that. The moment we saw the
motion so many feelings came to my mind. The first thing was that I wished
Yoonhoo Jung was also in the finals. The main reason was that because we
actually did the exact motion during our CUDS session and it was an extremely
messy and sloppy debate. Plus since Yoonhoo was in that session as well, it
would have been really fun if he was there with us. Plus because I picked OG
during the draw, this was the most terrifying fact as NC wasn't there when we
had that motion during session. So we just kept our cool and prepared a
completely new OG case and we went through with it. After the debate, both NC
and I thought it would be a miracle if the OG won this debate. Plus so far in
my BP career, it was always hard for me to get 1st place in a final so I also
thought it would be a miracle if we got 1st place especially when we were OG.
We really just got lucky :)
How was
KIDA IV for you in general? Share with us the good, bad, and the ugly
KIDA IV was an extremely good experience for me as the
dates were perfect, the adjudicators with good feedback, the high quality
debaters I had to face, but just on the aspect that so many diverse societies
getting together to work on such a huge project was very inspiring to see. The
CAP being so diverse alongside with the Org Com comprising of such diverse
universities was something you don't see every day.
The good things about KIDA IV alongside with the
diversity and Korea University hosting a tournament that I could participate
was also the fact that NC had sacrificed his birthday to come all the way to
participate in this wonderful tournament. Although some people criticize us of composing
of a team like this, I still feel it is the first and last chance to team up
with NC in a BP tournament. Plus since we didn't fight a single time, this was
also something nice to appreciate :)
The bad things about KIDA IV are normally the things that
can't be controlled by anyone :) Things like the energy policy of the
University or the icy cold weather. It was that good of a
tournament.
Just on a personal note regarding the ugly, I was not
that pleasant with the Beer drinking game that we had to drink the beer on the
fastest pace. MJ dragging me to the front without knowing what the game is, me
drinking my best but ending 5 seconds later to everyone, proving to KIDA that I
can't drink as fast as other people wasn't the best experience I could have.
What were
your best and worst motions? How were the debates for those motions?
On a personal note, I feel the best motion was either
round 3 or round 6 of the preliminary rounds. For round 3 I really thought it
was an interesting and new motion, yet not so burdensome for the OG to set up a
reasonable case. As we were OG and came up with a doable case, it was quite
nice and enjoyable to debate for the people who really need the help. Round 6
was nice and enjoyable on the aspect that I felt it was really well balanced
for all four teams. It really challenges debaters to come up with nice
extensions and it also puts the burden on opening teams to twist the already
set ideas in society. The debate was once again interesting not only in the
debate, but also seeing Jinseok and NC sweating their pants down on trying to
end the debate quickly.
The least debatable motion I would pick is round 2.
Excluding the fact that assuming it was possible trend going on, I feel the
burden is a little too high for the government side to prove something that is
not possible right now. I guess even if it was the best debaters doing the
government, I felt it’s still extremely easy for the opposition to prove
already existing values of the current society and also has the moral high
ground on the idea of punishment which in my personal perspective are easy to
get persuaded. But yet again it does depend based on adjudicators.
As a
composite team, how did you make a team and how was the teamwork?
I wouldn't necessarily call our team a composite team but
I feel that the reason me and NC teamed up was because we never participated in
a BP tournament. We teamed up three times for 2011 Spring KNC, 2011 UADC and
2012 UADC but never in a BP team. But since we teamed up several times in the
past, the overall dynamics were very nice and we felt like we were doing okay.
We never fought; never had disagreements and we always folded our ego in a
situation where the other opinion makes more sense. Plus as CUDS members we
just kept practicing more and more.
Who did you
find the hottest at KIDA IV?
NC!
Who was the
most inspiring speaker for you at KIDA IV?
I would have to say both speakers from the team Lam
Chops. I always get criticism that I'm speaking too fast and no one can
understand me. To some extent I feel that both speakers are the style that I
would want to go to. The economy of words and their slow manner is something
that allows not only debaters to feel persuaded, but the general public as well
which is something that inspires me greatly.
Who
was the most inspiring adjudicator?
None other than Aditya Mitra. During the six preliminary
rounds Aditya adjudicated three of them. All three rounds the results were
understandable, and I bought all three of them. He really imposes
understandable and fair burdens to all teams which is an aspect I feel is
lacking in South Korea overall. Constructive feedback was good and it was nice
how he incorporated how we could have improved when he was explaining his
result.
Any last
words?
It was an honor to have interviewed my the DPI once again
and I just hope to see a 2nd KIDA IV next year!!!
FINALISTS
OO: LAM CHOPS (Abel Lam and Matthew
Leung)
Please
introduce yourselves:
Hi, we are Abel Lam and Matthew Leung from team Lam Chops
who just competed at the inaugural KIDA IV 2013! Abel currently is taking up
Law at the London School of Economics, while Matthew is doing a Masters of Laws
at the Australian National University.
How was the Final Round? What were your thoughts and feelings before and after the round?:
How was the Final Round? What were your thoughts and feelings before and after the round?:
Matthew: Inevitably, you always are anxious about the
Grand Final, and what motion has been chosen by the adjudicator core.
Particularly given the dynamics of British Parliamentary style debating, the
motion can really challenge you depending on which faction you represent during
the debate. Needless to say, that feeling was well justified given the
(rightfully) challenging debate motion for the Grand Final. But it is
always good to challenge yourself each and every time if you want to develop
personally as a debater. We always prefer the more "meaty"
matter heavy debates given that you can draw upon your own knowledge and
research. But philosophical debates can be enjoyable too where there is
wide latitude to debate.
Abel: The final round was
rather relaxed. Partly due to the philosophical nature of the debate, it was
not something that would arouse interest in me, particularly after a long night
a drinking and a series of debating beforehand.
How was KIDA IV for you in general? Share with us the good, bad, and the ugly:
Matthew: KIDA IV was great, with plenty of
fun times catching up with wonderful debaters, and making new friends.
What was particularly nice about KIDA IV was the use of subsidized foreign
judges to help diversify the judging pool. It really is important,
particularly at open tournaments to have such depth and diversity of experience
given that open tournaments will draw teams from different countries and
regions from around the world! Admittedly though, the motions were
sometimes very vague, which can cause problems if the opening government
faction has difficulty in properly setting up the debate.
Abel: The good is always to see old friends
(Hyewon, Tim, Eunji, Daniel, Joe, HKU people and many many more etc...) and
making new ones. It's also finally a change that I'm debating instead of
judging. Ah, and, for those who know me, the best is simply, and has to be,
having loads of pajeon and makgeolli! Unfortunately, I lost my phone at KIDA
IV, which is a serious put-off. But I really appreciated those who helped me
along!
What were your best and worst motions? How were the debates for those motions?:
We are definitely split on
which was the best motion. Abel preferred round 3 on the motion that
"THW ban portrayals of negative images of
Africa by international organizations as a means to raise fund", whereas Matthew preferred round 6 on the motion
that "THW ban sinful industries to lobby government". Matthew's
opinion is that it was a great principled debate, that combined with some heavy
matter material. As for the motions in general, it would have been better
to mix up the debates between principled debates and matter heavy
debates. The over-emphasis on principled debates (that culminated in a
philosophical debate in the grand final) was unbalanced. We collectively agreed
that the worst choice of motion (not necessarily the motion itself) is probably
the Grand Final. Although it could potentially be a very interesting debate, it
is not one that would manifest itself in the grand final (and indeed, it did
not). Something more contextual and engaging would have been preferred, see
Round 3 or 6.
Who did you find the hottest at KIDA IV?:
Matthew: Where do we
begin?!?!?! Hahaha!!
Who was the most inspiring speaker for you at KIDA IV?:
That would have to be
NC. Who else would give up celebrating their birthday by attending a
debating tournament?
Any last words?
Any last words?
We look forward to coming
back next year!
CG: KU4 (Ahyeon
Cho and Junbin Yun)
Please introduce
yourselves
Hello,
I am Ahyeon Cho from KU. I was KU4 in KIDA IV and my team mate was Junbin.
How
was the Final Round? What were your thoughts and feelings before and after the
round?
To be honest, I didn't know that we were going to be advancing to the final round because I did a horrible speech in the semi round. Also, I didn't know if I even wanted to advance because I wasn't sure if I was going to make a fool of myself in front of so many people. When we chose Closing Government I was relieved because I wasn't ready to make a case as opening, but after we got the motion I panicked because we didn't have any idea on what we our extension would be. The motion was such a philosophical motion and I for one wasn't sure how to handle that kind of motion.
Junbin
was definitely a HUGE help. Like all the other rounds once again he was the
calm one who thought of the framework on the way we were going. I cannot say
that I am 100% satisfied with the speech I gave but I think I could have done
much worse a without my lovely team mate. After the round I was just relieved
that everything was over and very thankful to my team mate.
How was KIDA IV for you in general? Share with
us the good, bad, and the ugly.
KIDA IV
was kind of different for me because the tournament was held at the school I go
to. It was much easier to go to the competition every day because I just went
straight from my home. I feel kind of bad because I think I could have done
much better sharing with other participants of KIDA IV about Korea University.
But I
think that the people of KIDA IV did such a great job running a smooth
competition on KU campus. The faculty of KU is not the easiest or the most
generous people to work with, but you guys pulled it off! Kudos!
What were your best and worst
motions? How were the debates for those motions?
The worst motion for me was the motion for
round 2, Assuming such technology exists, THW force egregious criminals to
virtually experience the crimes they have committed. We were the closing
opposition for this motion and I was the member. The problem was that I did not
know that the motion had the word "virtually" in it until I finished
my speech, so I kept mentioning about how this is actively and physically
violating the criminals. Thankfully we did get 1st on that motion and my
angel-like team mate did not give me any embarrassment for the mistake I made.
But I did panic right after I found out the motion included
"virtually" and I apologized to my team mate.
I would have to say the best motion for me was
the motion for round 6, THBT 'sinful' industries (such as but not limited to
alcohol, tobacco, and guns) should be stripped of the right to lobby. We were
the Closing Government. It was just a good motion for me because
I think we thought of a really good extension as well as a good effort
overall.
Any last words?
KIDA IV
was such a good learning experience for me. Every time I participate in a
tournament like this I am reminded of how many smart people there are in
the world and how I am a failure at life, lol. But all jokes aside, KIDA IV was
another reminder that there are so many intelligent people in the world and
that there is a lot to be learned from them.
CO: FDU-PKU
(Won
Chian Lim, and Andrew Cheong)
Please
introduce yourselves
My name is Chian Lim, some of you would call me by my family name, Won!
I'm a third year student majoring in Law at Fudan University, Shanghai.
Currently, I’m the team manager of the Fudan English Debate Team.
How
was the Final Round? What were your thoughts and feelings before and after the
round?
The final was definitely harsh. My partner and I didn't really have much
to talk through during preparation and it got harder during the round when our
top half practically grabbed everything they could. It took me a few days to
finally figure out a better approach to explain why some lives are more
important than the rest.
How
was KIDA IV for you in general? Share with us the good, bad, and the ugly.
Everything was great at KIDA IV, the food, the people,
the timing and all! The motions were especially interesting as most debates
were pretty new for me! THE UGLY would probably be that I did not get to debate
about religion *BOOHOO. haha
What were your best and worst motions? How were the
debates for those motions?
Honestly, there wasn't a best motion for me as I hard a
pretty difficult time trying to follow up with my superb partner in all the
debates! I don't think there was a worst motion, but the worst debate round i
had was the plastic lifestyle debate: 7 males and 1 female talking about what
feminism meant was just ridiculous. hahaha
Who did you find the hottest at KIDA IV
Ahhh the hardest question always, especially when it's a
tournament in South Korea! My pick would be the cutest DCA, YOUNGCHO LEE. The
few days at KIDA IV was probably the best dress Young Cho I’ve saw thus far!
HAHA
Who was the most inspiring speaker for you at KIDA IV?
This is hard. I look up to many debaters, inspiring in
various manners! NC, Taeyoung, Matthew, Abel, Andrew and all! The most
inspiring for me would be Matthew. The style and fluency in his speeches were
amazing! I guess that the gap between a native speaker and a second language
speaker!
Who was the most inspiring adjudicator?
hahaha. everybody?
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